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		<title>By: mrfreddy</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>mrfreddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Randy and Eugene- regarding those metabolic ward studies, Dr. Eades had an interesting commentary on that today




http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/bogus-studies/last-gasp-of-the-dark-ages-of-nutrition/
 basically, he contends the calories are kept too low on most of those studies to draw any conclusions about macro nutrient composition... at very low calories, the body simply doesn&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Randy and Eugene- regarding those metabolic ward studies, Dr. Eades had an interesting commentary on that today</p>
<p><a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/bogus-studies/last-gasp-of-the-dark-ages-of-nutrition/" rel="nofollow">http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/bogus-studies/last-gasp-of-the-dark-ages-of-nutrition/</a><br />
 basically, he contends the calories are kept too low on most of those studies to draw any conclusions about macro nutrient composition&#8230; at very low calories, the body simply doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Thong</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6401</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Thong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrius - I&#039;d rather have organizations making correct pronouncements.  Won&#039;t change the fact that you still need to go out and lift the thing or eat the right thing.

@Mike - Exactly.

@Sean - Thanks.  And hey, more perspectives are always welcomed.

@Chef Hayes - They were just doing what they thought was right.  Too bad their guidelines are based off of (incorrect) assumptions.

@Randy - The two metabolic ward studies I&#039;m aware of used a liquid diet, with the liquid meals divvied up into different proportions.  I&#039;m pretty sure there&#039;s a difference between getting 40% of your calories from the fat in meat, avocado, and eggs and getting it as pure soybean oil (as it is in the metabolic ward studies).  

And as for the other 18, I&#039;m still waiting.  But no rush:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrius &#8211; I&#8217;d rather have organizations making correct pronouncements.  Won&#8217;t change the fact that you still need to go out and lift the thing or eat the right thing.</p>
<p>@Mike &#8211; Exactly.</p>
<p>@Sean &#8211; Thanks.  And hey, more perspectives are always welcomed.</p>
<p>@Chef Hayes &#8211; They were just doing what they thought was right.  Too bad their guidelines are based off of (incorrect) assumptions.</p>
<p>@Randy &#8211; The two metabolic ward studies I&#8217;m aware of used a liquid diet, with the liquid meals divvied up into different proportions.  I&#8217;m pretty sure there&#8217;s a difference between getting 40% of your calories from the fat in meat, avocado, and eggs and getting it as pure soybean oil (as it is in the metabolic ward studies).  </p>
<p>And as for the other 18, I&#8217;m still waiting.  But no rush:)</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUT, all long term metabolic ware studies that DID examine extremes in carb and fat comsumption have shown the same thing.  Only calories count!  








There have been about 20 of these studies since 1935 to the present (where calories, carbs, fats are counted by a third party) and all agree.











If you want references I&#039;ll provide them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUT, all long term metabolic ware studies that DID examine extremes in carb and fat comsumption have shown the same thing.  Only calories count!  </p>
<p>There have been about 20 of these studies since 1935 to the present (where calories, carbs, fats are counted by a third party) and all agree.</p>
<p>If you want references I&#8217;ll provide them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6145</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Articles like this frustrate me. The New England JM should have more of a moral conscience to do a more in depth study then this nonsense they are allowed to publish. Less inquisitive people take the word of organizationslike the NEJM as gospel. If they have nothing useful to publish I can send them a proposal for a cook book. I&#039;ll even throw in the animations for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articles like this frustrate me. The New England JM should have more of a moral conscience to do a more in depth study then this nonsense they are allowed to publish. Less inquisitive people take the word of organizationslike the NEJM as gospel. If they have nothing useful to publish I can send them a proposal for a cook book. I&#8217;ll even throw in the animations for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Preuss</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6136</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Preuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to blog about this one today, but I think you nailed it.  Nice work Eugene!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to blog about this one today, but I think you nailed it.  Nice work Eugene!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://eugenization.com/the-latest-nejm-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for laying it all out there. When this latest study came up in my rss feed under the NY Times the first thing I said was, &quot;Now which group was supposed to be low carb?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for laying it all out there. When this latest study came up in my rss feed under the NY Times the first thing I said was, &#8220;Now which group was supposed to be low carb?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I was looking at this study this morning, and even with my limited grasp of everything in the realm of nutrition, I was shocked at how similar the diets seemed and how not representative of the competing trends they were.  This study seems destined to stir up more confusion and misleading justification for poor eating habits.  

At least it&#039;ll keep guys like you employed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I was looking at this study this morning, and even with my limited grasp of everything in the realm of nutrition, I was shocked at how similar the diets seemed and how not representative of the competing trends they were.  This study seems destined to stir up more confusion and misleading justification for poor eating habits.  </p>
<p>At least it&#8217;ll keep guys like you employed!</p>
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